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Students show support for GLBT community

T-shirts worn in response to offensive comic; week-long initiative to include silent protest, panel

News Writer

Published: Tuesday, January 26, 2010

Updated: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 02:01

Student, faculty and other members of the Notre Dame community will participate in events this week to demonstrate their desire for the administration to add sexual orientation to the University's non-discrimination clause.


The events kicked off yesterday when students wore "Gay? Fine By Me" T-shirts to show their support for Notre Dame's Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Transgender (GLBT) community. Senior Patrick Bears, a member of the Core Council for Gay and Lesbian Students, said that in light of a controversial comic published in the Jan. 13 edition of The Observer, there has never been a more important time for students to show support for the GLBT community.


"Generally we try to coincide T-shirt day with StaND Against Hate week or National Coming Out Day, but given the controversy surrounding the comic we thought it would be better to do a weeklong initiative promoting these issues," Bears said.

More students and alumni than ever expressed interest in obtaining T-shirts to wear, he said.


Former Notre Dame wide receiver Golden Tate said he wanted to get involved with the initiative to help show Notre Dame's GLBT community that he and others on campus support their decisions.


"I wanted to participate in the project because just like everyone else, [the GLBT community] are people and have rights," Tate said. "The Notre Dame community is a family and family members support one another to make the family stronger."


Senior Johanna Kirsch chose to wear a "Gay? Fine By Me" shirt yesterday for similar reasons.


"I think it's good for the student body to come together and show support for each others' struggles," Kirsch said. "I hope the GLBT community will be able to see that they do have supporters who love and accept them for who they are."


Senior Jessica Mahon, one of the students in charge of organizing the T-shirt day, said she hopes the events planned for this week will show students the ongoing nature of discrimination on campus.


"I think it's important for students to realize it's not a problem that goes away," Mahon said. "It kind of comes in waves. There will be a comic or a Viewpoint letter or something and it'll be a hot topic for a week and then go away. But it's not an issue that goes away for members of the Notre Dame community that are gay."


Bears said his main goal for this week's events is to simply start a discussion on the issue of discrimination against Notre Dame's GLBT community, because it is often ignored on campus.


"I think [this week is] important because these kinds of issues aren't really discussed on campus as well as they should be and there's kind of this veil of ignorance surrounding these issues," Bears said. "From a legal and theological perspective, Notre Dame needs to reinforce its Catholic identity by practicing nondiscrimination."


Senior Madison Prieto, a member of Notre Dame's GLBT community, echoed Bears' goal of educating Notre Dame students and faculty.


"People at this school can be a little closed-minded sometimes, so [the events being held this week are] a good way for people to learn about what's going on and the issues at hand," Prieto said.


Following yesterday's T-shirt day, a silent demonstration will be held today at noon at the University's gates to protest Notre Dame's exclusion of sexual orientation from the non-discrimination clause and the lack of a recognized Gay-Straight Alliance on campus.


Tomorrow, a panel discussion, "Where To Go From Here?: Moving Beyond Fruits  and Vegetables," will be held in the Hesburgh Library's Carey Auditorium at 7:30 p.m. The event will consist of a discussion and question-and-answer session about what Notre Dame's student body can do to fulfill the Spirit of Inclusion, a document adopted by the University in 1997.

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21 comments

Laurel Javors
Wed Jan 27 2010 23:38
Chuck~
Thank you for fighting for us still stuck in this place of discrimination. Thank you for attaching your name to your posts unlike the cowardly people who submit under "your name" or only put their first name or some screen name. Notre Dame should also celebrate people like you, who have the true love and kindness of Jesus. Having a 5th grade understanding of the Bible and of religion is fine when one is in 5th grade. Clearly the people pulling the "holier than thou" card on you are in that place. It is clear that you know and love our God very deeply and that your life, and your husband's life, and your life together is one of sacrament. Your homosexuality is a gift from God, and no one can deny that, no matter how many empty words and meaningless phrases they spew out of their mouths.

Tanya~
We missed you girl. Your gorgeous girlfriend represented you both beautifully today. When the day comes that you and your lovely lady pronounce your love in the SACRAMENT of marriage, there will an episcopalian deacon/priest (?) who would be honored to bless what God has united in heaven. Yes haters, I said it, their union is a sacrament and it has been united in heaven. I witness their love for one another every time I talk with one or both of them...SO TAKE THAT!!!

Chuck Colbert '78
Wed Jan 27 2010 23:08
Philothea and Nancy D —

No one is suggesting that gay people have created a new category of personhood. Being gay to me is as much a part of my identity as I presume your being straight is to yours. It's not a choice. It's something that many of us come to understand and discover about ourselves, nothing more, nothing less.

Telling us to deny who we are would be in my view tantamount to telling any self-respecting Irish person: You are not Irish, you have Hibernian or Celtic inclinations. Or it's okay to be Irish but don't drink Guinness. Or to say to a Catholic, it's okay to be Catholic but don't pray the Rosary. What the church says to me is this: It's okay to be a dog, but don't bark. Not a prayer pal, will I live my life like that. I am not sick, or immoral, or criminal in my love and life-commitment to my spouse, a man.

Interestingly, I wrote my STL thesis arguing a Catholic case for same-sex marriage. There are more than a few highly regarded Catholic theologians who see human sexuality in much broader and enlightened manner than your comments indicate.

There is indeed a Catholic case for same-sex marriage both civil and sacramental. I would be happy to share with you my thinking on the topic.

Can you imagine a loving God and Jesus of Nazareth taking a dim view of two people of the same gender who love each other and wish to build a life together in the bond of marriage. It seems to me that the words attributed to Jesus ring out: I came to give life so that you could have it abundantly. It was not — I came to give you a theology of sin identity to shame you into the closet.

God's creation is far to majestic and encompassing, to expansive and generous to deny love and life to gay and lesbian people and their families. After all God is love. We love, too, just like you do. Why is that so difficult for you to fathom?

May I ask you both to stop talking down to me. Please jettison your self-righteous and patronizing attitude. That is how i experience your words. They are not thoughtful conversation starters. Rather your language is a big conversation stopper. I realize you may not intend your words to be condescending. But they are to my ears.

And Nancy, shalom right back at ya!

Philothea, my theological education at Weston was top flight. It was worth every penny. No need for a request for a refund.

Finally, may I ask you to re-read what the courageous young woman, a Notre Dame student, wrote. She is someone whom Notre Dame should celebrate — not discriminate against. Her words give me great hope for my alma mater and the Church. Thank God for her.

Just listen to our stories. They might open your hearts and minds. That is my prayer and hope for you. Get to know us — do a Jesus 101 — before casting theological stones.

visitor
Wed Jan 27 2010 22:58
The news of these discussions and events on campus make me very happy. Good for you, Notre Dame. Now keep on following through and eliminate prejudice and discrimination against gay, lesbian, bi, and trans people.
Philothea
Wed Jan 27 2010 16:13
Philothea,
Chuck, you should get a refund on the tuition, if any, you paid to Weston, on the grounds that it utterly failed to convey the Catholic Church's basic teachings on human sexuality.
Jesus stunned his disciples with his teachings on marriage. Taking them back to Genesis, he explained that marriage made "one flesh" of the husband and wife, thereby creating a permanent union. He condemned sins against marriage, such as adultery (whether actual or "in the heart") and living with a person outside marriage. He performed his first public miracle at a wedding feast, raising marriage to the level of a sacrament. There is nothing in the New Testament to support the notion that sexual acts between two men, or two women, are to be regarded as morally equivalent to the marital act between a husband and a wife. It's just not there, no matter how desperately you want to see it.
Get your money back! Demand a refund!
Nancy D.
Wed Jan 27 2010 13:56
As Catholics we know that the only orientation we should have is one that is oriented towards The Will of God. We are Men and Women, made in the Image of God. Creating a separate personhood based upon sexual preference is demeaning and not consistent with The Word of God.
Liz
Wed Jan 27 2010 13:24
I think things are getting a little murky on this comment thread. There seem to be two different arguments going on. One is should the LGBTQ community find acceptance and love in the Catholic community that is Notre Dame. And the other is These gays are horrible people for having sex outside of Holy Marriage!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 16 years of Catholic education which I received taught me that the Catholic Church does not find homosexuality to be a sin, but the act of practicing to be a sin. Therefore, being gay is not a sin. Why then are we discriminating against those who are gay on campus?

You cannot prove that being homosexual makes you more predisposed to extra-marital sexual activity than being a heterosexual at Our Lady's University. Therefore that argument should be discarded.

The issue is acceptance of something that the Catholic church does not consider a sin. I pray that the GLBT community finds a bit more of that around campus and among alumni soon.

Nancy D.
Wed Jan 27 2010 12:50
Chuck, where exactly did Jesus say that we should celebrate "sex" outside of a Holy Marriage? God has made His intention for Sexual Love clear from The Beginning. Only in a complementary relationship of Sexual Love can two become one.
We are called to develop Holy and healthy , loving relationships in communion with God. Some of these relationships will develop into Marriage. This is what God intended. Sexual Love and sex are not the same for Love is not possessive to begin with.
Only through Christ, can we no the essence of Love. This is The Truth that will set you free. I Pray you will find Peace in Christ.
TB
Wed Jan 27 2010 12:34
wasnt*
Tanya Barrios 2011
Wed Jan 27 2010 12:32
and no i was hiding my name, guess it erased my name when it didn't go through.
Your name
Wed Jan 27 2010 12:31
First of all, I just want to thank Chuck Colbert. I'm a current junior at the university and a member of Notre Dame's LGBTQ community. After I read your comment, I felt so glad that someone could understand where I am coming from and I admire you so much because I can only assume that life at Notre Dame while being gay must have been so much harder for you than it currently is for me.

To all those who are completely against us and honestly have a view of 'holier than thou' towards us, I'm going to tell you a little story.
I came out officially March of 2009. Yes, while I was a sophomore in college. You have no idea how terrified I was to come out officially to my peers in a campus where I would be discriminated against more than before, as I am also a minority. Little by little I told my friends about the 'real' me and they see it as a completely normal way of life. And before you start judging me, my friends range from liberal to super conservative. Yes, the more conservative ones were shocked and at first didn't know what to say to me or how to talk to me. But I gave them some time to come around and reassured them that just because they knew this new detail about me didn't mean that I was a completely different person and my personality had changed. I was still the same girl looking for love just like everyone else. Now tell me what's wrong with that. Almost a year has gone by and my conservative friends are fine with it. We started slowly talking about it and they saw that being a bisexual didn't affect who I was; if anything, I was happier because I was finally in my own skin and didn't have to hide it ,which in turn made them happy for me and more willing to accept it. I started dating my girlfriend (who by the way ALSO goes to Notre Dame) in April and I'm proud to say that I WILL marry her. I know it.

it seems that those who dont believe in our lives and the way we are think we're some sort of sex addicts or something. i mean c'mon 'sinful sexual relationships?!' that makes us seem like some sort of nymphomaniacs waiting to pounce on whoever, whenever. thats not how it works. all we want is a chance to be able to love freely and openly. and im proud to say that even though I go to a school that has refused to give me equal rights as everyone else, I still display my love for my girlfriend openly on campus because you know what? you cant stop me. you cant stop our love. and though you might disagree with it, it's happening. the world is changing and pretty soon your hate will backfire. it's all a matter of time

Chuck Colbert '78
Wed Jan 27 2010 11:06
Nancy D, with all due respect right back at ya, tell me, please, what exactly did Jesus say about homosexuality, let alone gay love and life and parenting? Perhaps we are reading different versions of the New Testament.
Nancy D.
Wed Jan 27 2010 10:58
With all due respect, Chuck, The Truth, The Word of God Made Flesh is not in a closet. The Truth Has Risen.
Your name
Wed Jan 27 2010 10:33
There is no reason to believe that the "beautiful Catholic teaching of sexuality" cannot coexist alongside the real world struggles of members of the LGBT community. I'm sure many of you would prefer it if we just pretended we didn't exist, or at least pretended Notre Dame didn't exist (and in the future, when ND is scraping the bottom of the academic barrel for applicants, that may become true), but we do exist, and the University benefits in many ways from our presence.

Not discriminating against someone for his or her sexual orientation is in no way akin to condoning homosexual acts. Just as the University in no way condones pre-marital heterosexual sex. This is a distinction that can easily be made if one actually wants to, you know, think about things. Instead of shutting down, jamming his fingers in his ears, and pretending that Notre Dame exists in its own untouchable Catholic paradise.

Chuck Colbert '78
Wed Jan 27 2010 10:32
PS: I am hardly ignorant of Church teaching, holding an M.Div. degree from Weston Jesuit School of Theology, as well as the STL degree from the same fine Catholic theological institution.
Chuck Colbert '78
Wed Jan 27 2010 10:29
To all the no names, especially the toe-the-line defenders of Our Lady's backwater mindset, What is it about your anonymity? It's easy to hide behind no names and fire out your platitudes. What are you afraid of in showing your faces? How ironic, years ago, we were in the closet and now you are. Go figure. Come out, come out where ever you are!
Your name
Wed Jan 27 2010 10:15
It's interesting, and sad, that any reference to the beautiful Catholic teachings on human sexuality is met with taunts of "ignorance" and "closemindedness."
Most of the folks lobbing those grenades are virtually ignorant of these teachings, having been victimized by what passes for Catholic "religious education" in so many of our homes, parishes and Catholic schools. They have, instead, simply soaked up the relativist poison offered by our secular popular culture, all the while congratulating themselves for their progressiveness, their intelligence, their tolerance, their open-mindedness. Curiously, they are tolerant of almost any belief, except for orthodox Catholicism.

What doesn't make sense is why these students and faculty chose to come to Notre Dame in the first place. There are plenty of schools, such as Georgetown, in which students can enjoy a veneer of Catholicism, studying "in the Jesuit/Catholic tradition" while not learning any actual Church teaching. But instead, they come to Notre Dame and are shocked! shocked! to find that the university is serious about its Catholic mission.

Your name
Wed Jan 27 2010 10:01
Why don't we have more alums like Chuck Colbert.

As for you other two, be careful what you wish for. If you have any pride in this University, you should hope that it does what it can to stop itself from becoming an irrelevant, unimportant University in the same vein as Stubenville, Franciscan, and Ave Maria. If that's what you want, then by all means, keep pushing your close-minded (yes, "faithful," you are indeed close-minded) and ignorant agendas.

Your name
Wed Jan 27 2010 09:58
"If Georgetown University can fund a GLBTQ resource center on its campus, why can't Our Lady."

Our Lady knows The Truth of Love, and Christ's Universal Call to Holiness, which does not include sinful sexual relationships.

God's intention for the inherent ordered Nature of Sexual Love was made clear from The Beginning. The truth is, that "gay" life can not be Love because Love is not possessive to begin with.

faithful
Wed Jan 27 2010 09:12
gay rights is of course a political issue--and for the most part, one for the political left. has anyone noticed that whenever the left encounters oppostion, the opposition is likely either to get a tofu pie in the face, or be accuse (as are catholics at notre dame) of being "a little close-minded?" queer folk, i've noticed, are always open-minded.
Your name
Wed Jan 27 2010 07:07
Notre Dame's Catholic identity compels it to discriminate against homosexuality. To insist that homosexual activities are disordered and sinful, and to acknowledge that a homosexual orientation is a cross and not cause for celebration. To refuse to allow same-sex couples to reside in married graduate student housing, regardless of whether a state temporarily allowed them to "marry." To exclude same-sex partners from university health care benefits. To allow students and faculty to proclaim these Church teachings without being accused by offended homosexuals of "hate crimes" or of violating a PC nondiscrimination clause.
Wake up the echoes. Notre Dame is a Catholic institution. Catholic teaching makes clear that homosexual activities are sinful and disordered. There will be no officially-recognized student "gay rights" groups here, just as there are no "pro-choice" clubs. Those who want to attend a university that welcomes and celebrates disordered sexual activities can choose just about any other "top" school in the country.






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